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jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 12:53 PM

Malaysia Dijangka Menyewa 18Bijik Pesawat Tempur Saab Gripen JAS39
 
Saab Eyeing Lease of Gripen to Malaysia and a Follow-on Deal with Thailand

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megat Sri Rama (Post 16584892)


Saab AB (SAABB) says sales prospects for its Gripen fighter are improving as country’s such as Denmark and Canada reconsider buying the Lockheed Martin (LMT) Corp. F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and others set fighter purchase plans.

Sales of current model Gripens and the NG, the next generation model, may exceed 300 units in the next two decades, Eddy de La Motte, head of Gripen Exports said today. A lease of fighters to Malaysia, a new sale to Finland and a follow-on deal with Thailand are possible, he said in an interview.

European and U.S. combat jet makers such as Boeing Co. (BA), Lockheed Martin and European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co. are battling in numerous overseas markets as domestic orders come to an end, risking the closure of production facilities. Saab secured Gripen’s future with an agreement from its home country, Sweden, and Switzerland to jointly develop the new version to be delivered from 2018.

“We can now offer a fixed price, fixed performance and fixed timetable,” de la Motte said. “The outlook is better than anything I’ve seen.”

Canada opened talks with Saab after the country in December decided to review options amid concerns over mounting costs for the F-35 it was set to buy. “We have got a formal request,” de la Motte said, while adding a decision has not been taken to mount a sales campaign.

“Canada has strong ties to the U.S. and we are really looking at trying to assess our chances,” he said.

The Stockholm-based company is more bullish about the outlook in Denmark, another F-35 program partner, where the government said last week it would pick a combat aircraft in 2015. “It is ideal timing,” de la Motte said.

Brazil is among the country’s also considering Gripen. The government recently asked Saab and rival bidders Boeing and Dassault Aviation SA (AM) to extend their offers beyond a March deadline as it considers its plans, de la Motte said.

A lease to Malaysia would be arranged through the Swedish government, rather than Saab directly and may involve as many as 20 planes, he said. The Czech Republic, a current lessor of Gripens, is also in talks with Sweden to extend its use of the jet.

Contract timing, particularly in Eastern Europe, is in flux because of budget pressures, de la Motte said. Prospects there include sales to Bulgaria, Croatia and Slovenia, he said.

Saab secured a 47.2 billion Swedish krona ($7.32 billion) development pact for the Gripen NG in February and expects to book an order to build 60 of them before year end, Chief Executive Officer Hakan Buskhe said at the time. Switzerland plans to buy 22 aircraft.




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PETALING JAYA (Sept 23, 2012): The Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) is considering an offer from Sweden to lease up to 18 JAS39 Gripen fighter jets for its Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) programme.

RMAF chief Tan Sri Rodzali Daud told theSun leasing the Gripens is a cheaper solution considering the huge capital expenditure needed for the procurement of new fighters.

“The Gripens had been leased to European air forces, so there is nothing new about such a deal.

“The aircraft also meets all of our MRCA requirements although I admit it is short on gas and range due to its small size,” he said when asked to comment on claims by defence industry sources that Sweden has offered a lease-buy option for the Gripens.

Sources told theSun that offer was made after Gripen and the Sukhoi Su-30MKM were eliminated from the MRCA programme following technical evaluation by RMAF test pilots.

They said the three top contenders, namely Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon, would compete for the final stage of the programme, where their transfer of technology packages and off-set offers would be evaluated before the winner is selected.”

Anyhow as mentioned in my story, I was told that the Super Hornet was ranked highest in the technical evaluation with Dassault Rafale second and the Typhoon third. However as I had written many times before stranger things had happened before as the final decisions rest on “National Interest”. What is “National Interest”? To be honest, I don’t really know, it actually depend on decide on such matters! In the 90s, our National Interest dictated that we buy both the Fulcrums and the Hornets for the air force. Is this mantra true today perhaps but the dynamics are more nuanced now days.


A Thai Gripen flying with a Saab 340 AEW aircraft

One more thing to come out from my short conversation with the PTU is that the budget for the MRCA programme is somewhat limited. He did say they would need a special budget to cover the procurement and it may need to be spread over three Rancangan Malaysia. He did not make any hint which plane or the lease buy option is more attractive. However since he did say that the budget for the MRCA programme may well be spread over 3 Rancangan Malaysia, I am guessing that he preferred an outright procurement instead of leasing despite its attractiveness,
–Malaysian Defence




PS: Satu berita terbaik untuk TUDM. :)


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PETALING JAYA (Sept 23, 2012): The Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) is considering an offer from Sweden to lease up to 18 JAS39 Gripen fighter jets for its Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) programme.

RMAF chief Tan Sri Rodzali Daud told theSun leasing the Gripens is a cheaper solution considering the huge capital expenditure needed for the procurement of new fighters.

”The Gripens had been leased to European air forces, so there is nothing new about such a deal.

Ya, dakwaan panglima kita itu benar tetapi kedua-dua negara ini berada di bawah payung NATO dan rantau Eropah sekarang ini tidak lagi menerima ancaman luar berbanding Asia Tenggara dan Timur Tengah yang dikatakan mempunyai potensi untuk meledak ke arah satu peperangan besar.

”The aircraft also meets all of our MRCA requirements although I admit it is short on gas and range due to its small size,” he said when asked to comment on claims by defence industry sources that Sweden has offered a lease-buy option for the Gripens.

Pelik bukan apabila Gripen dikatakan memenuhi semua syarat spesifikasi tender program MRCA sedangkan semua orang tahu TUDM memerlukan pesawat dua enjin, mesti berkebolehan untuk membuat beroperasi pada jarak jauh dan mampu membawa beban persenjataan yang banyak.

Secara tidak langsung, panglima kita sebenarnya sudah pun memberitahu bahawa Gripen gagal dalam syarat tender kerena tidak menepati dua faktor utama di atas.

Sources told theSun that offer was made after Gripen and the Sukhoi Su-30MKM were eliminated from the MRCA programme following technical evaluation by RMAF test pilots.

Sumber saya pun memberitahu perkara yang sama tentang Gripen dan Sukhoi dan artikel saya sebelum ini sudah pun menyenaraikan pesawat-pesawat yang telah memasuki peringkat akhir.

India pun menyikirkan Gripen di sebabkan banyak peralatan avionik, enjin dan perkakasan di dalam kerangka Gripen itu menggunakan produk buatan Amerika Syarikat (AS). AS jika melaksanakan dasar embargonya terhadap Malaysia, Gripen TUDM akan berhadapan dengan masalah kerana kaitan produk-produk AS dalam pesawat.

Secara peribadi, saya tidak tahu bila TUDM membuat penilaian teknikal terhadap Gripen, saya fikir laporan teknikal TUDM mungkin bersumberkan perkongsian maklumat dengan India dan Thailand.

They said the three top contenders, namely Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon, would compete for the final stage of the programme, where their transfer of technology packages and off-set offers would be evaluated before the winner is selected.

Ya memang benar, dasar negara sangat mengutamakan pemindahan teknologi. Melalui konsep penyewaan ini, saya fikir negara tidak mendapat apa-apa tawaran istimewa dari Sweden. Ia mungkin murah dan menguntungkan pada jangka pendek tetapi merugikan pada jangka panjang.

Rodzali denied that Gripen and Sukhoi were no longer considered for the MRCA programme as “we are still evaluating all of the aircraft”.

Keptusan MRCA akan diumum selepas PRU 13. Tender ini dibuka hanya untuk mengambil hati para sahabat, TUDM sudah pun tahu apa yang mereka mahu.

Kalau TUDM masih membuat penilaian, mengapa syarikat SAAB (Pengeluar Gripen) tiba-tiba membuat tawaran sewaan ke atas pesawat Gripen.

Ini menunjukkan SAAb macam terpaksa mengeluarkan kad terakhir dalam permainan POKER selepas tahu yang mereka akan gagal ke pusingan akhir program MRCA TUDM.

Ingat, tujuan utama SAAB masuk bertarung dalam permainan Poker ini adalah untuk memasar dan menjual Gripen di nusantara. Mereka bukan masuk tender untuk menyewakan Gripen. Jadi, nyatakan SAAB sebenarnya terpaksa mengeluarkan kad terakhir kerana Gripen sudah pun tewas pada pusingan awal.

He also denied that RMAF had ranked the aircraft in the technical evaluation.

Instead, he said, the aircraft’s strengths and weaknesses were documented for further evaluation.

According to him, one important factor for the final selection would be the lowest support cost. “If the Super Hornet is seen as the favourite, it is because we already have the Hornets (eight units) in service.”

Sebab-sebab pesawat buatan Russia macam Sukhoi terkeluar adalah disebabkan kos pemilikan yang agak mahal dari segi jangka panjang.

Orang kata biarlah kalah semasa membeli dan menang semasa memakai.

Asked how many Gripens will be leased if the offer is accepted, he said “preferably it will be 18 planes as specified in the MRCA”.

Benarkan 18, adakah jika tawaran Gripen diterima. TUDM akan mempunyai lebihan bajet untuk meneruskan pulan program pesawat AWACS yang sudah tertunggak lama.

He said despite budgetary constraints, the MRCA programme will go ahead as the air force has planned to retire the 10 MiG-29N Fulcrum air superiority fighters by 2015. “We may need a special budget, one that covers three Malaysian plans,” he added.

Keperluan MRCA TUDM sangat mendesak dan cuma tinggal beberapa tahun lagi deretan Mig 29 TUDM akan dipencenkan. Sebelum 2015, kumpulan pertama jet MRCA terbaru Malaysia perlu memasuki inventori TUDM

Rodzali declined to confirm the budget allocation for the MRCA programme but sources told theSun the air force could only procure 12 jets if it opts for the Super Hornet, Rafale or Typhoon.

Malaysia sentiasa mempunyai opsyen untuk membuat pembayaran melalui sistem barter dan saya pasti, pihak BAE akan mempunyai pakej menarik untuk Malaysia seperti yang pernah dibuat semasa pembelian pertahanan pada tahun 1988 dahulu dengan United Kingdom. Kalau jumlah itu sedikit mengapa ada program pembesaran dan upgrade pengkalan-pengkalan TUDM yang strategik yang akan dibuat tidak lama lagi

Hungary and Czech operate the Gripens under a 10-year lease-and-buy contract, for around RM398 million a year, which covers servicing and training.

Rodzali dismissed any hint of an arm race in the impending buy.

MEMANG TIDAK ADA ARM RACE TETAPI MALAYSIA SEDANG MEMERHATIKAN PERKEMBANGAN DI SPRATLY DENGAN PENUH RISAU

”The reason we are looking for new fighters is because of the capability gap. We need to ensure we are on par with other nations.

”Another reason is technology. Technology is moving rapidly. We cannot afford to be left behind.

Ini kenyataan untuk meredakan perasaan negara-negara jiran. Sebenarnya TUDM sedang mencari pesawat yang canggih untuk mengatasi kemasukkan pesawat-pesawat Stealth JSF ke dalam Singapura.


Komen SP.


jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 12:54 PM


Malaysia juga dijangka mendapatkan Saab AEW ni. :)paid

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 12:56 PM


18 Bijik Saab Gripen JAS39 untuk TUDM!!!

Terbaik!!!

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 12:57 PM


MAIDIN 21-03-2013 12:57 PM

banyak duit negara kita ni ye . hehe

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 12:58 PM


Smart....... :)paid

General Juhziz 21-03-2013 12:58 PM

lg power dr shukoi & mig yg msia tgh miliki ye?

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAIDIN (Post 16584039)
banyak duit negara kita ni ye . hehe

SEWA je bos. http://forum.worldoftanks.com/public...rollface-3.gif

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Juhziz (Post 16584055)
lg power dr shukoi & mig yg msia tgh miliki ye?


Don Malaya 21-03-2013 01:00 PM

terbaik...

ape kelebihan jet nie tt?? compare ngn jet lain

iilan03 21-03-2013 01:00 PM

aik sewa je ke???? bukan bleh beli ka??? mana pi abih duit setengah??? masyuk poket ka???

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 01:01 PM


Inzal aku melihatnye........... http://forum.worldoftanks.com/public...le_sceptic.gifhttp://forum.worldoftanks.com/public...le_sceptic.gif

g_kan 21-03-2013 01:02 PM

sewa ok la...mcm Spanco..haha

http://www.military-today.com/aircra..._gripen_l3.jpg

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Malaya (Post 16584073)
terbaik...

ape kelebihan jet nie tt?? compare ngn jet lain

Saab Gripen vs F-35

Posted by picard578 on March 16, 2013

AIRFRAME PERFORMANCE

Contrary to some claims, F-35 has rather simple and conventional aerodynamics. Basic configuration is similar to F-16, however lack of LERX, and use of lower-performance but stealth-friendly chimes for high AoA lift enhancement, means that it will have far less body lift than F-16 to help compensate for its high wing loading, and wing lift will also be smaller at high AoA. Result will be (for a modern fighter) disastrous turn rate.

Further, it has internal carriage, which adds drag compared to low-drag AAMs and pylons, and its far higher weight also means more inertia that has to be overcome.

Gripen is, on the other hand, built for maneuverability. Close-coupled canards, wing-body blending, and wing shape all help increase lift during maneuvers, allowing aircraft to both achieve higher angles of attack, and to turn tighter at same angle of attack. Particularly canards create vortices that reattach air flow to the wing at high angles of attack. Aside from helping air flow over the wing, Gripen’s canards also help air flow over the body. Canard also has advantage over tail as the control surface – as center of gravity for modern aircraft is towards rear of the aircraft, usage of canard results in longer moment arm than it is case with tail. Further, Gripen has large degree of wing-body blending, and it’s wing loading is also far lower than that of F-35.

While thrust-to-weight ratio is below 1 for both aircraft, Gripen has far lower drag than F-35, partly compensating for F-35s superior thrust-to-weight ratio. While F-35 achieves maximum of Mach 1,6, clean or not, Gripen can achieve speeds of over Mach 2 clean.



SITUATIONAL AWARENESS

First thing that can be noticed about both Gripen and F-35 is that neither has rearward visibility from cockpit. In Gripen’s case, attempt was made to attenuate the problem by installing rear-view mirrors onto the canopy forward frame. However, while Gripen’s visual and IR signatures are far lower than F-35s, Gripen itself does not have IRST, which means that F-35 may be able to detect it first.



WEAPONS

In gun department, Gripen uses German BK-27, a 27-milimeter revolver cannon which was also supposed to be equipped to F-35, but in the end, F-35 received 25-milimeter rotary-barrel GAU-22. In air-to-air combat, BK-27 has a large advantage over GAU-12 in that delay between pilot pressing the button and full rate of fire being achieved is just 0,05 seconds, as opposed to 0,4 seconds for GAU-22. Further, on F-35, trap door must open if gun is internal (and assuming it wasn’t open already), possibly adding another 0,5 seconds to process. Maximum rate of fire is 1 700 rpm for BK-27, and 3 300 rpm for GAU-22. Muzzle velocity is 1 025 m/s for BK-27 and 1 040 m/s for GAU-22, but BK-27s shells – weighting 260 g as opposed to GAU-22s 184 g for HEI and 215 g for AP – will bleed off speed slower, and be less affected by wind and other air turbulences.

Therefore, in first half of second – which is crucial in dogfight; rarely will opponent fly in the same directon for full second or more – BK-27 will fire 14 projectiles massing 3,64 kilograms, and GAU-22 will fire 16 projectiles massing 2,94 – 3,44 kilograms, but only assuming that F-35 pilot opened gun doors beforehand – if he didn’t, GAU-22 will not fire any projectiles at all. GAU-22 may be a sign that US have (finally) understood that 20 mm cannons are not sufficient for modern air-to-air combat, similar to WW2, when they delayed introduction of 20 mm cannons instead of 50 caliber machine guns as main fighter armament well into Korean War. However, it is more likely that it was thought of as compromise between air-to-air and air-to-ground combat, considering that F-35 is primarly ground attack aircraft.



FORCE PRESENCE AND SUPPORTABILITY

While F-35A costs 197 million USD flyaway, Gripen C costs 40 million USD flyaway. As such, Gripen can provide almost 5 times as large force as F-35A can. Further, due to Gripen’s lower maintenance and turnaround times, same force will be able to fly far more sorties. Gripen is also designed to operate from roads, and has STOL capability, something that F-35A lacks, though not the (even more expensive) F-35B.



5-TH GENERATION?

According to this article, Lockheed Martin’s definition of 5-th generation fighter is following:

– stealth
– high maneuverability
– advanced avionics
– networked data fusion from sensors and avionics; and
– the ability to assume multiple roles.

Comparing F-35 and Gripen, it can be seen that while F-35 is stealthier on radar, Gripen has far lower IR and lower visual signature. Unlike F-35, it also has high maneuverability, and both aircraft have advanced avionics and multirole capability, while networked data fusion will be avaliable on Gripen NG. F-22 has high maneuverability but is not multirole, while Rafale and Typhoon only lack stealth. Thus, F-22, F-35, Typhoon, Rafale and Gripen NG are all equally 5-th generation aircraft, with Gripen C/D being just one step away.



And while another article defines fifth generation fighter as “being able to operate in anti-access environment featuring integrated air defenses…”, that capability can also be achieved in several ways, radar stealth being just one aspect of survivability, and rather limited one considering proliferation of passive sensors.


FAKTOR KOS adalah terbaik diantara jet2 NextGen ni.

Hitman™ 21-03-2013 01:04 PM

sewa lar AC130.

*haha, aku tak habis-habis dengan AC130.

astrowan 21-03-2013 01:05 PM

mmg masyuk sempoi

buat persediaan semua kena beli gak....

Ran 21-03-2013 01:07 PM

Sewa utk kgunaan apa..selama mn sewa nye..xreti aku bhs magriss..

aHLoNGYaKuZa 21-03-2013 01:09 PM

Sewa je ker...

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman™ (Post 16584139)
sewa lar AC130.

*haha, aku tak habis-habis dengan AC130.

ler.

Kan TUDM dah beli A400 Atlas dapat 2015 nanti.

Charlie ni tak main dah. Ketinggalan.


MOD jr. 21-03-2013 01:12 PM

apesal la malaysia tak beli f-22 raptor... beli 1 negeri 1... kan best

awiena 21-03-2013 01:14 PM

sewa beli ka sewa apa

clorox_bersih 21-03-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Juhziz (Post 16584055)
lg power dr shukoi & mig yg msia tgh miliki ye?

operational cost dan pakej yang disertakan kurang menguntungkan..
rasanya, su30 lebih baik dari pelbagai aspek..
apapun, kami mahu transaction dan kontrak yang clean..

kalau ikut artikel, pesawat ni pun lbih murah dari yang lain..
terutama dengan f-35 JSF, 40 juta usd sebuah, jsf 197 juta usd sebuah

zhafran86 21-03-2013 01:15 PM

last2 letak dkt muzium..

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ran (Post 16584166)
Sewa utk kgunaan apa..selama mn sewa nye..xreti aku bhs magriss..



PETALING JAYA (Sept 23, 2012): The Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) is considering an offer from Sweden to lease up to 18 JAS39 Gripen fighter jets for its Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) programme.

RMAF chief Tan Sri Rodzali Daud told theSun leasing the Gripens is a cheaper solution considering the huge capital expenditure needed for the procurement of new fighters.

”The Gripens had been leased to European air forces, so there is nothing new about such a deal.

Ya, dakwaan panglima kita itu benar tetapi kedua-dua negara ini berada di bawah payung NATO dan rantau Eropah sekarang ini tidak lagi menerima ancaman luar berbanding Asia Tenggara dan Timur Tengah yang dikatakan mempunyai potensi untuk meledak ke arah satu peperangan besar.

”The aircraft also meets all of our MRCA requirements although I admit it is short on gas and range due to its small size,” he said when asked to comment on claims by defence industry sources that Sweden has offered a lease-buy option for the Gripens.

Pelik bukan apabila Gripen dikatakan memenuhi semua syarat spesifikasi tender program MRCA sedangkan semua orang tahu TUDM memerlukan pesawat dua enjin, mesti berkebolehan untuk membuat beroperasi pada jarak jauh dan mampu membawa beban persenjataan yang banyak.

Secara tidak langsung, panglima kita sebenarnya sudah pun memberitahu bahawa Gripen gagal dalam syarat tender kerena tidak menepati dua faktor utama di atas.

Sources told theSun that offer was made after Gripen and the Sukhoi Su-30MKM were eliminated from the MRCA programme following technical evaluation by RMAF test pilots.

Sumber saya pun memberitahu perkara yang sama tentang Gripen dan Sukhoi dan artikel saya sebelum ini sudah pun menyenaraikan pesawat-pesawat yang telah memasuki peringkat akhir.

India pun menyikirkan Gripen di sebabkan banyak peralatan avionik, enjin dan perkakasan di dalam kerangka Gripen itu menggunakan produk buatan Amerika Syarikat (AS). AS jika melaksanakan dasar embargonya terhadap Malaysia, Gripen TUDM akan berhadapan dengan masalah kerana kaitan produk-produk AS dalam pesawat.

Secara peribadi, saya tidak tahu bila TUDM membuat penilaian teknikal terhadap Gripen, saya fikir laporan teknikal TUDM mungkin bersumberkan perkongsian maklumat dengan India dan Thailand.

They said the three top contenders, namely Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale and Eurofighter Typhoon, would compete for the final stage of the programme, where their transfer of technology packages and off-set offers would be evaluated before the winner is selected.

Ya memang benar, dasar negara sangat mengutamakan pemindahan teknologi. Melalui konsep penyewaan ini, saya fikir negara tidak mendapat apa-apa tawaran istimewa dari Sweden. Ia mungkin murah dan menguntungkan pada jangka pendek tetapi merugikan pada jangka panjang.

Rodzali denied that Gripen and Sukhoi were no longer considered for the MRCA programme as “we are still evaluating all of the aircraft”.

Keptusan MRCA akan diumum selepas PRU 13. Tender ini dibuka hanya untuk mengambil hati para sahabat, TUDM sudah pun tahu apa yang mereka mahu.

Kalau TUDM masih membuat penilaian, mengapa syarikat SAAB (Pengeluar Gripen) tiba-tiba membuat tawaran sewaan ke atas pesawat Gripen.

Ini menunjukkan SAAb macam terpaksa mengeluarkan kad terakhir dalam permainan POKER selepas tahu yang mereka akan gagal ke pusingan akhir program MRCA TUDM.

Ingat, tujuan utama SAAB masuk bertarung dalam permainan Poker ini adalah untuk memasar dan menjual Gripen di nusantara. Mereka bukan masuk tender untuk menyewakan Gripen. Jadi, nyatakan SAAB sebenarnya terpaksa mengeluarkan kad terakhir kerana Gripen sudah pun tewas pada pusingan awal.

He also denied that RMAF had ranked the aircraft in the technical evaluation.

Instead, he said, the aircraft’s strengths and weaknesses were documented for further evaluation.

According to him, one important factor for the final selection would be the lowest support cost. “If the Super Hornet is seen as the favourite, it is because we already have the Hornets (eight units) in service.”

Sebab-sebab pesawat buatan Russia macam Sukhoi terkeluar adalah disebabkan kos pemilikan yang agak mahal dari segi jangka panjang.

Orang kata biarlah kalah semasa membeli dan menang semasa memakai.

Asked how many Gripens will be leased if the offer is accepted, he said “preferably it will be 18 planes as specified in the MRCA”.

Benarkan 18, adakah jika tawaran Gripen diterima. TUDM akan mempunyai lebihan bajet untuk meneruskan pulan program pesawat AWACS yang sudah tertunggak lama.

He said despite budgetary constraints, the MRCA programme will go ahead as the air force has planned to retire the 10 MiG-29N Fulcrum air superiority fighters by 2015. “We may need a special budget, one that covers three Malaysian plans,” he added.

Keperluan MRCA TUDM sangat mendesak dan cuma tinggal beberapa tahun lagi deretan Mig 29 TUDM akan dipencenkan. Sebelum 2015, kumpulan pertama jet MRCA terbaru Malaysia perlu memasuki inventori TUDM

Rodzali declined to confirm the budget allocation for the MRCA programme but sources told theSun the air force could only procure 12 jets if it opts for the Super Hornet, Rafale or Typhoon.

Malaysia sentiasa mempunyai opsyen untuk membuat pembayaran melalui sistem barter dan saya pasti, pihak BAE akan mempunyai pakej menarik untuk Malaysia seperti yang pernah dibuat semasa pembelian pertahanan pada tahun 1988 dahulu dengan United Kingdom. Kalau jumlah itu sedikit mengapa ada program pembesaran dan upgrade pengkalan-pengkalan TUDM yang strategik yang akan dibuat tidak lama lagi

Hungary and Czech operate the Gripens under a 10-year lease-and-buy contract, for around RM398 million a year, which covers servicing and training.

Rodzali dismissed any hint of an arm race in the impending buy.

MEMANG TIDAK ADA ARM RACE TETAPI MALAYSIA SEDANG MEMERHATIKAN PERKEMBANGAN DI SPRATLY DENGAN PENUH RISAU

”The reason we are looking for new fighters is because of the capability gap. We need to ensure we are on par with other nations.

”Another reason is technology. Technology is moving rapidly. We cannot afford to be left behind.

Ini kenyataan untuk meredakan perasaan negara-negara jiran. Sebenarnya TUDM sedang mencari pesawat yang canggih untuk mengatasi kemasukkan pesawat-pesawat Stealth JSF ke dalam Singapura.


Komen SP.

Duffayoi14 21-03-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOD jr. (Post 16584223)
apesal la malaysia tak beli f-22 raptor... beli 1 negeri 1... kan best

us jual ke raptor?:-?

clorox_bersih 21-03-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awiena (Post 16584249)
sewa beli ka sewa apa

sewa je rasanya..

MOD jr. 21-03-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duffayoi14 (Post 16584275)
us jual ke raptor?:-?

tah bro. saje je aku tanya :p

dah letak harga takkan tak jual kot :p

wanchaidek 21-03-2013 01:19 PM

sewa je :((

mutanic 21-03-2013 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jamtulenmurah (Post 16584072)

awat beza ngan kat sini???

http://weapons.technology.youngester...-aircraft.html
http://exploredia.com/top-10-fighter...-the-world/11/

eternalfx 21-03-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Malaya (Post 16584073)
terbaik...

ape kelebihan jet nie tt?? compare ngn jet lain

jet ni bakal terbang tanpa enjin!!

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mutanic (Post 16584290)

Itu list as per 2010.

Yg sy tempek tu latest tech.

Kena ambil kira specs terkini.

ahchan 21-03-2013 01:24 PM

harap dgn adenya penambahan ni meningkatkn lg keselamatan udara ngra
moga malaysia akan memiliki lagi pesawat yg baik slps ni
amin

nangka madu 21-03-2013 01:29 PM

sewa jer...knp x beli terus, m'sia kn byk duit.

letstorque 21-03-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by General Juhziz (Post 16584055)
lg power dr shukoi & mig yg msia tgh miliki ye?

Dari segi long range strike, masih Su 30 lagi bagus.
Dari segi air to air, dogfight, masib lagi Mig29 dan Su30 lagi bagus.

Cuma bila kata serangan darat sebagai peranan utama serta boleh secondary role sebagai fighter, Gripen JAS39 lagi bagus dari FA18D Hornet.
Rasanya ni untuk ganti FA18D ni, bukan Sukhoi atau MiG.

Kalau ada ni, MiG dan FA18D boleh jual la.
JAS39 lagi agile air to air dogfight banding FA18D, walau tak sepower Mig29.
Tapi MiG29 tak berapa berkesan untuk ground attack.

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by letstorque (Post 16584368)
Dari segi long range strike, masih Su 30 lagi bagus.
Dari segi air to air, dogfight, masib lagi Mig29 dan Su30 lagi bagus.

Cuma bila kata serangan darat sebagai peranan utama serta boleh secondary role sebagai fighter, Gripen JAS39 lagi bagus dari FA18D Hornet.
Rasanya ni untuk ganti FA18D ni, bukan Sukhoi atau MiG.

Kalau ada ni, MiG dan FA18D boleh jual la.
JAS39 lagi agile air to air dogfight banding FA18D, walau tak sepower Mig29.
Tapi MiG29 tak berapa berkesan untuk ground attack.

tak silap la..... terbukti keupayaan gripen ni masa perang kat libya. Nato test kaw kaw.

Duffayoi14 21-03-2013 01:33 PM

kalo ikutkan dgn keadaan sekarang...

berbaloi utk malaysia sewa gripen ni daripada beli...

susah2je 21-03-2013 01:33 PM

Berlawan2 plak kita ni..indon nihari beli 16 biji shukoi tu. Huhu..
Aku personali tak setuju perlumbaan senjata instead lebih baik kerahan tenaga rakyat dilatih combat infantry ajar ilmu medan perang yg bersedia anytime anyplace in Malaysia.

jamtulenmurah 21-03-2013 01:41 PM

China master of kopikat.

Tgk pesawat angkut derang ni. Canggih gak.

Xian Y-20


letstorque 21-03-2013 01:43 PM

Setahu aku, jet Gripen ni maintenance senang.
Regular flight maintenance boleh buat tepi jalan , bukan di hangar. Jet ni memang reka untuk beroperasi dari jalan raya di masa perang, dan boleh diselenggara oleh anggota kerahan teknikal, tak perlu tentera sepenuh masa.

Tapi , kalau ikut rekabentuk, MiG29 direka untuk berlepas dari runway yang tak berturap langsung. Lagi gempak. Lower air intake boleh tutup untuk elak batu masuk masa take off.
Dan flight system boleh tahan Electro Magnetic Pulse.
Tapi MiG29 kuat sangat makan minyak, dan kuat hasilkan asap hitam.
Sebab tu 19 Skuadron gelar diri sendiri Smokey Bandit.

haudli 21-03-2013 01:46 PM

kalau terhempas,, kita kene bayar ganti rugi atau jet tu dilindungi insuran?


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